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September 14th, 2006
Family affairs
Josey Vogels
Aside from the odd time when an Oscar-winning actress swaps spit with her brother, sibling incest isn’t popular conversation material.
This silence on the subject, says Dr. Dennis Kimberly, who counsels incest survivors, is part of the reason sex between siblings remains so disturbingly common.
Speaking at the Guelph sexuality conference earlier this summer, Kimberley, a Memorial University of Newfoundland professor, said that sibling incest is far more common than father-daughter incest.
But often, parents find it hard to draw the line between kids just being curious – “yours looks different than mine” – and displaying behaviour that’s more inappropriately sexual between siblings.
Is a brother and sister taking pictures of each other naked and posting them on the Internet incest? What about a brother who sets his sister up to have sex with a friend? In both cases, no sex occurred between siblings, explained Kimberly, but there was still sexual exploitation.
And while once is more than enough (about one-third of sibling incest cases are one-time occurrences), the real problems develop when the activity continues for months or even years, explained Kimberley.
How does it happen?
In some cases, said Kimberley, you have a highly sexualized child – again, a tough call since most children are sexually curious and expressive. But while self-stimulation isn’t uncommon for a two-year-old, rubbing yourself to the point of bleeding, as one little girl Kimberley encountered did, may be a sign
of bigger problems.Children whose parents are unavailable may overly attach themselves to a sibling and then sexual intimacy follows, explained Kimberley. Or if children share a childhood trauma, they may develop a bond that becomes sexual.
Sometimes, like some kind of unfortunate psychological heirloom, the pattern gets passed down generations. One of Kimberley’s patients suffered abuse from his grandparents and cuddled with his sister for comfort. When sis started developing, that comfort included letting him touch her boobs. The guy grew up, married a woman who’d also been abused as a child, and had a daughter they named after his sister. When his wife withdrew sexually, she told him to go have sex with the daughter.
It gets worse. Kimberley has seen a number of cases in which parents have taught their kids to have sex with each other for their own gratification. In one case, the parents filmed their kids having sex and invited others to watch. The brother and sister obliged, ironically, as a way to bond through the horror of it.
Not all sibling sex is quite so gut wrenching.
Sometimes it happens innocently, as with one young man who had sex with a schoolmate only to find out the girl was his sister from his father’s secret affair.
And in some cultures, it’s not unusual for brothers and sisters to sleep together and learn about sex from each other, explained Kimberley.
In fact, go online and you’ll find plenty of chat rooms and support groups for consenting sibling sexual relationships. Some even believe it’s an orientation, much like homosexuality, and encourage practitioners to “come out of the closet.”
The problem with this analogy, said Kimberley, is that beyond the risks of inbreeding (supporters claim the risks of genetic defects are exaggerated) and the social taboo, human family bonds (incest happens throughout the animal kingdom) are much different than the bonds we create with non-family members. As a result, the risks of post-trauma and psychosexual problems from an ongoing sexual relationship with a sibling are much greater.
One of Kimberley’s female clients had a brother who used to signal his readiness for sex by rubbing her arm. As an adult, every time her partner rubs her arm it triggers memories of incest. Some clients suffer from a condition where their adult partner’s face morphs in their minds into that of the brother or sister they had sex with.
Sadly, in most cases, parents who discover their children are sexually involved often think, “Hey, it’s no big deal. It’s only their brother or sister, not the guy next door or some stranger jumping out of the bushes. Let’s move on,” explains Kimberley. “They figure if they simply stop the behaviour, the problem’s gone. They aren’t prepared to deal with the potential long-term harm.”
Or the disruption to the family.
Which is why victim blame is common in sibling incest, explained Kimberley.
“It can be painful, because it destabilizes the family. Some victims have to disconnect from the family in order to heal, which can be upsetting to everyone,” he said.
Though not nearly as upsetting as suddenly seeing your sister’s face when you’re having sex with your wife, I imagine.
For more information and resources about sibling incest, visit Survivors of Sibling Sexual Abuse online at sasian.org.
October 22, 2006 at 12:22 am
I have two children who have been sexually abused for years by two older brothers. One of the abusers admitted it to his dad, he now recants, the other (long time abuser) admits nothing. The biological mom claims the victims are lying. Dad just doesn’t know what to do. His children abused his children. I am so angry. I want justice for these two damaged children that are abused. I fear this will split us up as a family unit. I don’t understand dad helping the abusers at this time. Help1
October 22, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Sue,
I am a survivor of sibling incest from my older brother. Please get your children the help they need. I told my mother and she believed me, but I did not get the theraphy I so desperately needed. I know justice is what you want, but remember, do what is best for the kids. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
November 19, 2006 at 4:32 pm
i think there has to be a line drawn between consensual relations between adult siblings and abuse.
m.
November 19, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Please explain further what you mean, mkushnir.
Thanks
November 26, 2006 at 1:22 pm
My older sister sexually enlightened me as i was but a teenager, i cannot recal these actions as unwanted or unwelcome. I truly believe the difference between consensual sexual relations and sexual abuse. These parody’s must be acknowledged when dealing with relations between adult siblings.
March 5, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Hi I am a film-maker and would very much like to make contact with someone who has had a consensual sexual relationship with a sibling especially anyone who has been inlove with a sibling.
I understand what mysteryman is saying. if two adults who are siblings engage in sex then it most definitely cannot be considered rape or sexual abuse.
cnayanah@yahoo.co.za
March 17, 2007 at 10:16 am
I can’t believe that you are trying to use a site like this to connect with people who want to engage in incest – even if they are adults . I can probably guess what kind of film-maker you are .This is disgusting , and I hope the site admin deletes your e-mail address Carmel. This is the wrong place to promote acceptance of any kind of incest.
March 18, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Actually, carmel doesnt say what kind of film he or she is considering making. I would presume that it would be a documentary. I would also presume that it would be educational to someone…
I considered deleting his post on March 5th, but decided against it. I don’t feel either are promoting incest. I do feel that everyone is entitled to their opinion, as you know, and as long as it isnt personally attack of another poster, then you know I won’t delete it. It is a chance to educate, which is the purpose of this site.
May 3, 2007 at 7:46 am
I think sibling incest should not be treated as taboo!.In my opinion i think incest should be encouraged by parents as a result the innocency of a children in knowing sex could not divert them towards bad suitation. Parents should teach there children about safe sex, so we can avoid the spreadings of AIDS. If they provide safe sex in the home itself then the children stops moving towards bad stuffs like prostitution, Unsafe sex, Drugs, Pronography.,etc.,
May 3, 2007 at 8:24 am
I love when ignorance rears its ugly head.
Danny, I feel so sorry for your children. And I hope the law catches you before you can ruin their lives.
I agree that safe sex needs to be taught, but its more than just the spread of AIDS. Provide safe sex in the home? It isnt safe. It messes with the child’s mind.
I think you need to rethink your stance.
May 8, 2007 at 4:08 pm
wow. i can’t seem to stop going back and forth with this subject. see when i was little i found myself being sexually attracted to my half brother (who had a different dad, same mom)…i never saw anything wrong with it until one day someone told me it was highly frowned upon and sometimes illegal. ever since then i have fantisized about having brother who i secretly have sex with. i know its wrong, my rational thoughts remind me of how wrong it is. but yet i continue to be drawn to the idea of a consensual sexual relationship b/tw siblings of the same age..(who are legally adults lets not forget that). i of course have never acted upon these intensely bizarre feelings and fantasies. my brother was too f**ked up to even notice me after he ran away to live with his dad. i never told anyone. and when i asked ppl why they think its wrong they can’t give me a solid reason besides inbreeding for why its immoral and sick. yet other forms of incestuous relationship disgust me,for instance father and daughter, mother and son, parent figures screwing or fondling their children has always seemed wrong. however when i hear about brothers and sisters engaging in sexual actvity; i get excited..what is wrong with me? i was never sexually abused (although my mother was,severely) and i have never been able to explain these bizarre feelings. any help? anyone?
May 9, 2007 at 10:17 pm
I m the youngest brother of four sister. Sex between sibling exites me. Should I say anything to my sisters. Will they accept? I also wanted to know is it normal? Plz help…..
May 10, 2007 at 3:24 pm
all of you who have fantasies about your siblings should get help imediately before you end up molesting and damaging your own children
May 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm
from bickfords?
May 10, 2007 at 3:56 pm
never mind first time i stumble on to your site and i have to say i admire your courage and strength lisa
June 22, 2007 at 9:38 am
imo parental incest is a totally different story in most cases because the parent is old enough to know that they are doing something that may harm their children, among other reasons (eg the parent is old and has a lot of power to the child making it defenseless), and i agree often sibling incest is the same (when the brother is older, or pushes it or something)
but when both siblings feel the same, or even, when the younger/female sibling is the one with the sexual feelings towards the older/male sibling, i dont see much of a problem. assuming its all safe sex, of course. if incest is a siblings fantasy, and both agree, how is this traumatising?
of course, i understand the above is unfortunately a small fraction of the occurrences of sibling incest, i do believe sometimes siblings of the same age are attracted to each other sexually because for example they are the closest person of their age in their lives, and if both feel the same way then i dont see any problems with having a sexual relationship, which should wear off as both grow up.
July 5, 2007 at 3:29 am
Stupid People You Are
July 5, 2007 at 3:43 pm
What kind of Jerry Springer shit is this???Some of you people need euthanized…Sick bastards
August 7, 2007 at 5:28 am
I see that there are basically three kinds of reactions here. One kind is of total disgust about the subject of sibling incest, a second one is by posters who have or have had sibling incest fantasies and a third that basically views incest as a bad thing in all cases, either consensual or not.
I think the first view is a common one, but unfortunately does not help either victims of abuse nor people who have or have had sex with a sibling without coercion or manipulation, which most people call “consensual incest”.
The second view is also becoming quite common nowadays, especially among young males and it usually revolves around sibling incest between sisters. Also there is a number of fanfics / books / films that include incestuous pairings. Paradoxically, because of the growing number of one-child families and relationship breakups, this kind of fantasy is growing. Many people are looking for a lifetime soul mate, and the fantasy of having someone who knows everything about you and loves you no matter what (someone who will not leave you because being a sibling is forever) drives many people to this kind of fantasy. Sibling incest is perhaps the latest sexual fantasy trend for people searching for unconditional love, heightened by the taboo associated with it. When we are young (and not so young), it is all too exciting to test the boundaries that society (through our education / parents) imposes upon us.
I understand the third view too. This is the standard opinion of society. Unfortunately, this view can and does create victims too. In my opinion, when health/judicial authorities state there was abuse between siblings simply because they are related is in itself an abuse to those who have engaged in this kind of relationships without coercion or manipulation. Very often, children and adults have become traumatized not by the incestuous relationship per se but when they were confronted about it by parents or a third party. Sometimes therapy causes more damage than the incestuous relationship.
In my opinion, a far more positive stance would be to criminalize what is really a crime and to keep a neutral attitude towards “consensual incest”. It is criminal when a father or a mother abuses his/her authority to get sexual gratification from their underage children. It is criminal when a (n usually older) sibling manipulates the other to get sexual gratification. However, many cases of sibling incest may develop in early childhood through innocent sex play, which is most often than not considered to be a neutral to a positive experience by the person who experienced it. Occasionally, sibling incest begins at a later stage. Teenage (and sometimes adult) siblings may engage in incestuous relationships. If the age gap is not greater than two years, usually these experiences are viewed by both siblings as a neutral to a positive experience, unless a (well-intentioned) healthy official states that he / she was abused, turning someone into a victim who wasn’t a victim in the first place, planting seeds of self-doubt and guilt in their patients. Undoubtedly there are also negative, traumatic experiences of sibling incest, but health officials are supposed to heal people who have been abused, not creating more victims by crying “abuse”, violating their patient’s autonomy.
In conclusion, incest is bad not because it the people are related but because there was abuse (actually, the same rules applied to relationships between non-related people) . If the people, including children, have engaged in incestuous behavior without clear signs of coercion or manipulation, people should be very careful how to handle this kind of situation. My best advice is: 1) do not be judgmental; 2) talk to them without judging or baling someone; 3) do not characterize their relationship as abusive (let them do that if they feel this way); but 3) do tell them about the consequences of their actions in a level-headed manner if you feel you must or it is appropriate.
August 31, 2007 at 10:57 am
i agree with Deeznutz, you are all crazy!! worse than springer
January 10, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Jan Vincent said it best without bias judgment. I would say less on the rest of you who jump to conclusion without first researching this further.
And to the writer, Josey Vogels, thank you for posting such an article. Knowledge is important and unfortunately many folks are either lack or ignorant about it. I can only hope they are opened enough to go deeper than just comments people leave here and do study more on the subject before judging others so harshly, which can be more harm than the experience they had.
Again thanks and have a wonder day.
January 27, 2008 at 2:29 am
I agree with (stunned) and there is something very wrong with anyone who thinks rape or sex with a family member rather brother or sister is normal or ok. Stunned ,these people are not dealing with a full deck or they are incest victims themselves. I had 7 siblings and I can’t even bring the thought up in my mind, omg! My brother’s are my blood and family and when we were all young they were just gross boys as any “normal” sister veiw they’re brothers. We as sister’s couldn’t even understand how our friends thought they were cute because we couldn’t see it no matter how much we loved our family members.
That is normal!!! When you become an adult you love your siblings and they’re children. If anyone committed incest with they siblings you can never have a any or normal relationship with that person.
March 23, 2008 at 9:35 am
I have deleted the comments about the fantasies… this isnt therapy row and it isnt confessional. Please don’t leave comments about your incestous fantasies here… it is beyond the scope of this blog. I suggest finding a good therapist.
Thanks,
BLOG OWNER
March 23, 2008 at 7:59 pm
dear sue,
u didnt say the same abt fake name..
and u ask to me check for a therapist cuz i spoke abt the subject..
may i know why?
May 19, 2008 at 3:34 pm
ok. i have been a victim of this since i was 16. it ended when i was 17 or 18 and I have to live with it every day. I recently am in a loving and understanding relationship and i trust him with all my heart. I am not proud nor happy about what i have done and have contemplated killing myself to get rid of the guilt. I recently came clean with my boyfriend and it has caused many problems between us. I have debated again killing myself and have decided that i should seek the help of a professional and my only concern is if i am still elgible to be charged as it is a crime and one that should not go unnoticed. like explained in your post, my parents were unavailable and I looked to my older brother who honestly took advantage of me and although i knew it was wrong at the time, it was the only thing i had so i let it happen and keep happening. I have gone thru so much and changed since all this has happened but knowing that it happened is killing me inside and i dont know what to do. any suggestions?
May 26, 2008 at 1:05 pm
SKEY – being in the situation you was in (parents not available), at an age of 16/17/18, we all need need some sort of help or support with the the problems we face at that age. you looked to your older bro for support and maybe he got the wrong idea about it. i wouldnt say he took advantage, probably the wrong signals were sent and he percieved it as if your saying to him “i want sex.” which hopefully you didnt but at that moment in time i understand why you didnt resist as he was the only person you had or relied on. my advice to you is get theraputic help, even speaking to someone about it on a deep level will help. you have built up energy in your unconcious mind all due to your experiences, which need to be released otherwise it could ruin the rest of your life, and the life you have with your boyfriend. DO NOT keep rewinding the thoughts in your head, try to live in the NOW. whats happened has happened and will not change, ONLY YOU can change. look to the future and see, you will have an amazing life with your boyfriend and hopeful husband, never give up!…hope this helps you, peace x
May 27, 2008 at 5:46 am
It may be quite difficult to people who hates incest to read my experience but please hear me out. I was involved with my two brothers when I was young. I had it first with our elder brother, we were curious particularly sex topic was a taboo in our household. Then our younger brother caught us one afternoon and threathen me secretly that he’ll tell our parents if I won’t do the same to him. We had it for nearly four years and our elder brother didn’t know to this day that I was also involved with our younger brother at the same time with him. Now I’m married for 11 years with no children and my brothers are also happily married also with no children. We never talk about it and forget the whole thing. But honestly, those episodes I’ve experienced kept coming back. I want to talk about it but I don’t know who I can trust. Before I got married I tried to see a therapist but I was scared and ashamed. Sometimes I’m confused for part of me felt disgusted and part of me kept on remembering the things happened before. I don’t know what to do. I don’t even want to talk with my brothers but only when there’s a need to. The talks about incest I’m confused now whether it was consensual or not because I sometimes blame myself of the whole thing. Sometimes I also want to blame my parents but in the end I really can’t forgive myself. I didn’t wish those things to happen and for what I’ve learn today, there should be sex education within family members and discuss things like sex to avoid the experience I had.
July 16, 2008 at 10:59 am
Hi. I am a sibling incest survivor. It started when I was 3-4. My oldest brother was 8 years old. What I remember most then is the extra attention I got that I so desperately needed. He would point to body parts, then private parts on him and me and then touch. I was like looking an ABC book, but even then the message was that it was between him and me and something was not quite right about it. Probably because he treated me like dirt most of the rest of the time. It progressed to him rubbing, touching, and lying on top of me by the time I was 8. It was then that I had an orgasm and never told him. He did, too in his pants. This continued for the next 1 1/2 years. That was about the age that I started feeling guilty. When I was around 10 he tried to go all the way. This happened several times.I am still confused about this one. I worried about getting pregnant,so I stopped it. For the next several years, my brother would only recognize me if I asked him to pass the salt. It was hell. I have since talked to my brother candidly (this was helpful-we have reached a point where we have a relationship again) and have been in counseling most of my adult life. I know I need more work and i can be very self-destructive. I can’t imagine what I would be like if I had I not gotten into counseling. Probably dead. But I know my life is less than fufilled. I have a lot of times have difficulty coping with the most mundane things. Even though I have a beautiful adult son ( NO SIBLINGS), and a supportive mate,a god job and friends, I still a damaged by it all. Do I just accept that this is my life? I am just stuck. I am so glad this site is here because 20 years ago there was nothing in books or magazines about this ( no internet) and know maybe I can connect to people who have been there. Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Charlotte
July 26, 2008 at 2:08 pm
You all must realize one thing,
a good portion of people who respond to all these claims are doing it for a laugh after a beer or just saying stuff because fantasy chat blogging is all they have going on in their miserable lives! between paying bills and going grocery shopping to dealing with my job and mortgage who has time to touch someone or molest someone..
I guess I would be surprised.. remember that a lot of these people blogging are doing this to see if they can get a reaction out of others as a form of entertainment. So alot of the comments are fake!!!
We cant bleed for the world or save africa or the spotted owl and rosie odonnel and her f*ucked up life,,..or we can concentrate on more important crap! Like teaching kids reading writing and math so they dont end up like snoop dog and hollwoods crap can!!
The best thing we all can do as a race of humans is realize we are on this sorry rock all by ourselves and I have not seen hide nor hair of any aliens anyway. So what we should do is start by getting rid of the ebonics in school and all the ghetto white punk ass kids that try to act black and teach this kids right from wrong! Yeah if you fucked a goat. uhhh yeah its wrong!!! If you have fantasies about your mother then 1000 points for answer no#2 it’s wrong!!
We have more pressing things to worry about then if Johnny f*cked his sister jenny after the rap concert they both went to!! yeah by the way thats wrong too—I mean the rap concert as well!! what we all should concentrate on is voting for the correct person to lead our country so we dont end up with IRAN shoving a nuke up our ass!!!
Not who f@cked your sis!!
July 27, 2008 at 1:00 am
This site is nothing but a trash repository for incest lovers and angry sex offenders.
July 27, 2008 at 1:19 am
let me say that I am no sex offender or angry person yet what I said before simply states that you cant believe half these people that write in to these blogs..
I think incest is wrong sex with parents is gross and horrible yet noone on any of these comment boards or sites is going to fix this except the person in the mirror.. These people doing these acts are wrong and they know it yet they enjoy their lustfull devious acts and so they are seeking acceptance because it’s a broadly happening phenomenon. This by no means makes it right….
what I am saying is if joeys Mom is a hot tamale and he decides he wants her and they have sex noone on this blog can stop it. Just like we cant stop rosie odonnel from being a fat skanky lesbian pig whore! Who stuffs her fat ass every day with starbucks frappachinos and muffins and then goes down on some nasty skank!
are you people getting this that the only people that can stop this behavior is educators in schools and the people doing the acts themselves.. But , I still say alot of people say fake stuff because it makes them feel empowered..
Dont believe everything you read.. Just like the show jerry springer was proven years ago that they are all paid actors on that show… Noone is really that fucked up.. they do it for entertainment because we are all bored with our dull lives!! what would you rather hear about, some guy who was a great construction worker and all the good he has done for research on construction or the midget hillbilly wwho is deaf and fucked a zebra in the back seat of a 57 chevy!! get my point??
americans love controversy and problemms . we cant help it because our lives are so boring that we make things up for fun! who would believe that their are this many people fucking their moms, I mean cmon its a joke already.. their are surely a few but not this many..
you can find dozens and hundreds of porn sites claiming incest but none of them are actually real!! they are grown adults mostly from uk or somewhere in europe posing as family memebers having sex for money!!
you want entertainment people, there is no better train wreck than the show Cops.. Now their is hillbilly mayham at its finest..
otherwise people will tell you they had sex with an orangatang filmed it and they are a midget in love with the brothers cousin!! whatever…. hard to believe
July 27, 2008 at 1:45 am
I am not saying there are no incest survivors but what I am saying is if you are one constantly rehashing the past if you have already been to counseling several times does not fix one thing!! Its time to pick up the pieces move on and get on with everybodys life…. I came upon this site because my drug addict sister is being a burden to our family! now you want to talk about a wides spread problem.. drug abuse is number one!! But when I google it this site came up and I read a few lines and it is very interesting to hear everyone talk about how uncle john molested them or billy touched sally.. I think every child at one point was curious about sex and touching other kids–who wasnt.. kids get erections and girls nipples get hard.. kids do not know the difference unless parents teach them yet kids are going to do what kids do!! adults doing this is oh so sad and I think counseling will not help much.. I feel the best way to teach young sons and daughters about sex is to be upfront and honest with them.. not descriptive but honest… tell them where babies come form and desribe relations between husband and wife,… we shield everyones eyes on sex yet we let people drink and drive and go fight in wars at 18..
sex has to be properly taught by the parents in an informative way and not actually on the kids?? duuh.. some people are just not well!! it is sad.. but I still think that
alot of the stories are fake!
August 8, 2008 at 7:24 pm
I am not making this up. I won’t be visiting this site again. Too much anger.
September 1, 2008 at 8:33 am
People have no business addressing a subject they have no personal knowledge of. I grew up in a very sexually charged enviorment. Incest was a big part of it (between siblings and cousins of same and opposite genders). I personally became sexually involved with my younger sister at a very young age and we continued our involment well into adulthood. We only stopped when I got married, though she wanted to continue and would often ask for sex, I remained faithful to my spouse, but I must say it was very tempting as I did want her. This eventually stopped when she married. I do not believe that we were scared by this experience, but rather I remember with fondness the ultimate intamacy that I shared with my younger sister as we grew up together. I must say that had someone, especially outsiders, ever come along during that time and tried to “help” us by “intervention” the results would have most likely been traumatic and devastating for us as this was completely consensual.
October 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I don’t have any experience with any of the things you people are talking about but I don’t think that anything consentual is ANY of your business including incest or ANYTHING else. I also think that men and women give each other mixed signals more than clear ones. So a brother might think a sister is “coming on to him” and feel justified while a sister might engage and afterwards feel used to justify feeling confused. Neither is true as a matter of fact only as a matter of reactionary interpretation. Treat it for what it is, and what it is is completely personal and new, not to be thrown in with someone else’s experiences.
October 13, 2008 at 6:17 am
Hi everyone,
I’m a 3rd year university student doing my dissertation on consensual incest and would really like to get the opinion of anyone who has been involved in a consensual incestuous relationship to get their thoughts heard on the subject.
I recently became interested in the topic after watching two different documentaries and feel that the public do not understand enough between the distinction of abuse and a consenting adult relationship. My research will not be biased about incest, i will not be giving my opinion, all I want to look into is what people feel about it if they have been through it. And of course you can remain completely annonymous if that is your wish.
I would really appreciate any replies to this, I’m not looking to exploit anyone through this, all i want to do is a relevant and thought provoking piece of research!
Thanks very much, kelly
December 19, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Kelly
Work needs to be done in this area. My experiences may be of interest. Do have an email I can contact you on? You can reach me on cedar4840@yahoo.co.uk
January 22, 2009 at 12:33 am
Firstly, let me say I do not wish to make light of the matter. I also in no way condone any sexual abuse, especially that of children.
I, however, must agree with the comments about separating consensual (albeit statutory) from abuse. I grew up in quite a remote area. When my brother and I (he’s 2 years younger) were both teens, he sort of when a bit ballistic trying to catch me naked. At the time, I was more or less the only girl he regularly saw. (Where as there where a number of guys that worked on our farm). This was in the days before internet (porn), and it was just us two and mum, so no dad to steal playboy’s off.
It was almost a game. He’d try to ‘accidentally’ walk in whilst I was showering or getting changed etc. So for his 15th birthday present I gave him 3 polaroid pictures of myself naked. It never really was mentioned or talked about and I almost forgot until my 30th birthday (I’m now 32) when he gave them back with a simple “Thanks” on the card.
From what was written above, this is overly sexual for siblings. Indeed I wouldn’t consider it ‘normal’ and I don’t tell my friends / family about it. Having said that, I don’t consider what I (we) did to be anything particularly bad. I don’t feel scared or abused and I as far as I know my brother is normal after his ‘crush’ on me. Whilst we didn’t have sex, I can also see how in a similar situation we could have (consensually).
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Again, I don’t wish to make light of the subject. My situation is vastly different to the rape that can take place that I can only give my sympathies for. I just hope that in (rightfully) condemning such actions, we don’t overly prosecute those in consensual incest.
June 29, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I think we should talk about what I do to my dog. Its been going on for a while now and I cant stop.
August 26, 2009 at 1:38 am
Hi, I didn’t read all of these postings, but my ex husband who is messed up and I didn’t know just how much, grew up in a very dysfunctional, extremely abusive environment. He was alway close to his brother, since the day I met him 20 years ago. I never thought too much about it, but after years when a few things started to happen I started to notice more things. There is a trama bonding thing sometimes. They are only two years apart in age, and they were always so secretive. His brother seemed jealous of me, like you would get jealous if someone was stealing your boyfriend.
I can’t say for sure if anything went on, between them, when I didn’t want the brother over anymore is when it got really secretive, and husband wouldn’t admit if he had seen him. I can’t explain it, but I’m almost sure there was something funny going on between them and then when I told husband to take a lie detector test, for other reasons and that (great marriage hey?) he stopped talking or seeing his brother altogether. They have no contact at all and before all that they were fairly close. I’m pretty sure the brother is gay too. So, I think this was going on, and I’m not sure, off and on for years, and who would even suspect something like that, I mean two brothers. OOOOHHH.
September 24, 2009 at 12:42 pm
i need to talk about my dark secret. if anyone has any advice or comments, plz email me at mdaddysgirl87@aol.com. i need sum1 2 talk 2.
my daddy used to educate me about sex when i was a little girl from the time i was only little. first he would get me ready by telling me to close my eyes and sit on his lap. he made me to spread my legs and would rock my back and forth and back and forth until i would get wet, and i would ask him- daddy, what r u doing to me?why do i feel like that down there?he’d tell me to be quiet and keep rocking me on his knee. hed tell me to do what he asked me, and if i did hed punish me by spanking. i didnt want a spanking cuz i only wanted to be good for daddy. on the couch, hed get me ready 4 it and i would be confused, because then he would make me suck on his fingers and i would say ‘why daddy?’ and he would tell me i was a good girl. then he would slip a wet finger down into my panties. this was the first time i ever been touched there. he would tell me to keep my eyes closed, and then make me feel warm down there- and it would feel dirty except i liked it. that is my biggest secret that i didn’t want him to stop touching me and making me feel good. anywayz, then the most confusng thing was that i didnt know why his pants would get tight, and what was happening to him. he was breathing hard when he touched me, and i was scared cause i thought i was doign smthing wrong. he just kept telling me what a good girl i was, and i liked that. then he took off his pants, and he told me just to have a little lick. i made a yucky face, but he grabbed my hair and said to do it. so i wanted to obey my daddy its not my fault. he pushed my head down onto his penis and told me it felt so good for him, that i was making him happy. i wanted to make daddy happy. he grabbed my hair tight and pushed me head back and forth and i could feel my daddys penis getting bigger. then i choked when he put it in too far, and he got really mad and said i almost made him cum in my throat. i said sorry but he was still mad so he took me over his knee and said sorry but he was going 2 punish me. then he pulled down my panties and said that it was going to hurt and it did. he spanked me again and again until i was crying and saying stop. he was smiling and rubbing my sore bum. he just said he was doing what wuz good 4 me and made me to say thank you after i took my punishment.
then he rolled me over on my back and said if i ever tell anyone about it he would kill me and i said okay. so this is why im writing about it now. i kept it secret for a long time.
then he rubbed my belly and said that he was going to teach me about my body and i said okay daddy. he stuck his fingers right up me down there and rubbed and said to tell him when it felt good. i told him it tickled and so he did it harder. then i told him it hurt and he slapped me and said good its supposed to hurt. but he tell me he didnt want to break my cherry and i said ‘daddy wats a cherry?’ and he said shut up all show you. so then he took his penis and started rubbing it on my little wet place. and then i said stop and he laughed and poked it in me just a little and said he was getting my pussy ready for him. i didnt know what it meant but i knew that daddy loved me-that he loved me so much and wanted to make me his good girl. so then i closed my eyes and he started rocking back and forth back and forth. then he shoved his thing inside me and i gasped- it was like the worst feeling and the best feeling at the same time. i started crying and he covered my mouth to make me quiet. shut up he said. it hurt so bad and he said it would start to feel good i just had to take it. he kept telling me to take it and that good little girls just let daddy make them a woman. he said this is what mommys and daddys do when they love eachother. he looked so happy even though he was hurting me but i knew that he loved me and he loved my body. he said i was nice and tight and that meant that i was a good girl and not a slut. when he was pushing inside me he said that i can never let another man inside me and i said okay. he said this hole is just for daddys. he was getting faster and harder and i almost fainted i think at one point i black out and daddy had a good time fucking my hole. but he couldnt cum and he was getting frustrated and he slapped me to wake me up. its my fault he said and pulled his penis out of my whole. why couldnt i make even my own daddy cum? he said hes going to try in another hole so i knew he meant my bum. he said he likes little girls bums and so he turned me over and i obeyed because i only wanted to be good. so then he spread me open and made some weird noises like a hungry animal. he said he loved me so much. then he started massaging my bum hole so that he was getting it ready for his penis. i dont know why but he spit on my hole and then he groan. then he put his penis inside my bum and started spanking me saying to relax for him. relax for daddy he said. then he shoved himself all the way into me and it hurt so bad. i was crying again when he spanked me harder. im close he said to me me. but my dark secret is that i really liked this to and i just wanted him to show me he loved me. he pulled my hair hard when he came and then he held his penis inside me when he came. oh god i dont know what to do i said. i felt a weird warm feeling and i am ashamed. he pulled me onto his lap and petted me and said one day i can feel good to.
plz help me leave a comment or email if you know why it felt so good.
November 10, 2009 at 7:42 am
I and my husband enjoy role play sex . we fantasize that we are doing sex with our siblings which makes us very aroused. My husband had a crush on his elder sister and during roleplay he calls me by the name of his sister.